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GerhardFenkart 
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(5/7/07 18:50)
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Questions Concerning Oral Exam/Presentation
Post 'em here!

GerhardFenkart 
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(5/7/07 19:07)
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Re: Questions Concerning Oral Exam/Presentation
Here's the presentation order for the first weekend (MARS 2009 Day and selected members of FIRST 2009 Evening)


Saturday, May 12       

10:00       
        Ebert/Griffin Questions
        Ingrid Wick
        Christina Hahnekamp
        Break
        Romana Degen
        Andrea Hanus
        Lunch
        Kristina Paumann
        Maren Werning
        Break
        Anita Putschögl
        Tamara Preatoni
       
Sunday, May 13       
       
10:00       
        Christine Schütz
        Julia Steiner
        Sandra Bacher
        Break
        Hannes Steger
        Cornelia Petz
        Lunch
        Michael Alexa
        Anita Pailer
        Break
        Thomas Bilek
        Matthias Steiner



This order is on the basis of the e-mail receipt times. As I stated in class, you are welcome to trade presentation order amongst yourselves as long as (a) I'm not involved and there's no emotional catastrophes and (b) the final order is posted on here no later than Wednesday, 6 p.m.

Bearbeitet von: GerhardFenkart  am: 5/7/07 19:08
GerhardFenkart 
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(5/7/07 19:37)
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Re: Questions Concerning Oral Exam/Presentation
Presentation Practice: Those of you that (1) are anxious to strongly improve your grade or (2) are worried about their presentation skills are welcome to give a preview of their presentation for feedback either tomorrow or on Wednesday instead of the class. I'd recommend meeting at my office (address is in the signature of every one of my mails - please DON'T post it here), ideally between 5 and 7 p.m. Whoever is interested, please mail me and then we'll schedule a time that works for everyone intereseted.

barbarella007
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(5/8/07 14:08)
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Re: Questions Concerning Oral Exam/Presentation
hi gerhard,

is it possible for you to make such a practise lesson next tuesday again (in your office)? because some of us haven't already finished their presentation. thanks a lot,
best,
babsi:D

GerhardFenkart 
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(5/9/07 12:33)
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Re: Questions Concerning Oral Exam/Presentation
Klar- Donnerstag, der 17. Mai ab 17:30 ginge auch.

barbarella007
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(5/9/07 13:22)
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Re: Questions Concerning Oral Exam/Presentation
Super, danke!!! da ist die präsentation sicher schon fertig ;-)
ich meld mich gleich mal fix an dafür ;-))

11681
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(5/11/07 19:59)
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17.05. 17:30
Bin auch dabei!
Christian Schütz

GerhardFenkart 
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(5/12/07 17:31)
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Re: 17.05. 17:30
Ich auch.

birgit2009
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(5/14/07 22:59)
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Präsentation
Danke, dass du dir am Feiertag (!) Zeit für uns nimmst!
LG
Birgit

GerhardFenkart 
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(5/15/07 17:35)
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Re: Präsentation
Here's the presentation order for the upcoming weekend (MARS 2009 Evening)


Saturday, May 19

10:00
Ebert/Griffin Questions
Karin Schaflechner
Christian Lang
Break
Melanie Bukovski
Barbara Schmid
Lunch
Michael Oladeinde
Sascha Strohmer
Break
Martin Lang
Birgit Wagner
Break
Yuri Vlasak
Dragica Gacic

Sunday, May 20

10:00
Andrea Reithner
Andreas Keller
Break
Sandra Neumann
Fabian Stilke
Break
Michael Rößl
Andreas Trnoska
Lunch
Christian Schütz
Jürgen Vanicek
Break
Melanie Urbanek
Anita Wimmer



This order is on the basis of the e-mail receipt times. As I stated in class, you are welcome to trade presentation order amongst yourselves as long as (a) I'm not involved and there's no emotional catastrophes and (b) the final order is posted on here no later than Friday, 1 p.m.

Bearbeitet von: GerhardFenkart  am: 5/16/07 14:37
Isabella85
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(6/1/07 21:07)
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Re: Präsentation
Hi Gerhard,

I hope not to bother you, but I have some requests:

-) Could you please post the presentation order for next week (FIRST 2009 Day)?

-) Additionally, I’d like to know whether a remote control will be available to click through the powerpoint-presentation or not.

-) Last but not least: We heard that the other group should be in Zeillern on Wednesday at 8 p.m. It’s the same for us, isn’t it?

Thanks for answering!

Best,

isabella

GerhardFenkart 
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(6/2/07 14:33)
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Re: Präsentation
Certainly! Let's start with the presentation order: (FIRST 2009 Day)


Thursday, June 7

9:00
Ebert/Griffin Questions for all
Georg Steinkellner
Andrea Pacha
Break
Isabella Sakac
Karin Pribil
Lunch
Cornelia Strassil
Michaela Zehentgruber
Break
Florian Pölzl
Feedbacks Day 1 Presenters

Friday, June 8

9:00
Doris Wolfesberger
Oliver Mavher
Break
Martin Teizer
Ricarda Zeiler
Break
Roman Rabak
Sandra Medvidovic
Feedbacks Day 2 Presenters
Lunch



This order is on the basis of the e-mail receipt times. As I stated in class, you are welcome to trade presentation order amongst yourselves as long as (a) I'm not involved and there's no emotional catastrophes and (b) the final order is posted on here no later than Wednedsay, 9 a.m.

GerhardFenkart 
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(6/2/07 14:44)
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Re: Präsentation
OK- on to the next questions:

> whether a remote control will be available to click through the powerpoint-presentation or not.

This is a very good question. In theory, a remote control WILL be available (the hotel provides them). However, last year, it ended up not working with the FH equipment. Due to this, I would recommend (a) bringing your own remote control (I unfortunately don't have one) or (b) preparing to present without one.

> We heard that the other group should be in Zeillern on Wednesday at 8 p.m. It’s the same for us, isn’t it?

In terms of pure requirement, you're only expected ot be in Zeillern/our seminar room by 9 a.m. on Thursday morning. However, it's strongly recommendable to come the day before. Firstly, there's less stress (getting out to Zeillern/checking in, etc. takes a while) and it's good for community spirit/exam morale to hang out with your classmates the evening before the exam.

The 8 p.m. guideline Robert mentioned applies to checking in. Basically, the rooms will be available on Wednesday afternoon and check-in goes up until 8 p.m. If for any reason you're planning on arriving later, you have to clarify that with the reception so that they'll leave out a key for you/give your key to a classmate.


> How much does it cost?

I was asked this via mail. It wouldn't be discretionary to publish this sort of information on a public forum, but the answer to that is in the first handout Robert sent you months ago.


FIRST Evening, I'm going to make myself a cup of tea and then you're next!

GerhardFenkart 
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(6/2/07 15:34)
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FIRST Evening Schedule
Saturday, June 9

9:00
Ebert/Griffin Questions for all
Simone Heinz
Günter Heimel
Break
Alexandra Balik
Lunch
Ugur Eroglu
Alexander Kittinger
Break
Franz Doppler
Feedbacks Day 1 Presenters

Sunday, June 10

9:00
Eduard Aellig
Barbara Fabian
Break
Alexander Fuchs
Feedbacks Day 2 Presenters
Lunch



This order is on the basis of the e-mail receipt times. As I stated in class, you are welcome to trade presentation order amongst yourselves as long as (a) I'm not involved and there's no emotional catastrophes and (b) the final order is posted on here no later than Friday, 9 a.m.

Bearbeitet von: GerhardFenkart  am: 6/5/07 15:11
GerhardFenkart 
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(6/2/07 15:36)
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Re: Präsentation
All the arrival information I posted above for FIRST Day applies to FIRST Evening, as well. The only difference is obviously that your arrival date is Friday or early Saturday morning.

GerhardFenkart 
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(6/2/07 15:45)
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Re: Präsentation
Further info concerning Zeillern:

There's numerous possibilities for sports activities (e.g. tennis courts, soccer field, jogging, bowling in the Schlössl-basement), so if you're into any of that, make sure to bring appropriate gear.

Also, it might be fun to bring a few boardgames along for the late afternoon/evening. If anyone has a Risk board ("Risiko", mine has been on four continents and noone but me can read it anymore), please bring it and we can conquer the world again.

There's a small supermarket in Zeillern, but please bear in mind that it closes early and the snack opportunities in the hotel after 10 p.m. are limited. Therefore, it might be a good idea to bring some snacks along.

On the second day of your presentations, we'll close before lunch (at which point in time I'll give feedback to the day 2 presenters). At this point, you're free to eat lunch/ not eat lunch/ return to Vienna, etc. It's a good idea to check out early on on day 2 (i.e. before class begins) as the hotel usually requires the rooms to be vacated before our day 2 presentations are over. Because of this, students usually deposit their bags in the seminar rooms on day 2.

That's pretty much all that comes to mind at the moment. If any other questions pop up, please post them here. Otherwise, I look forward to a fun week out in Zeillern with y'all!

Isabella85
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(6/4/07 19:56)
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Re: Präsentation
Hi Gerhard,

We are not sure: Should the discussion last 15 or 30 minutes?
In case it should last 30 minutes: How bad would it be, if it only lasts 20 minutes? We all fear that we aren’t able to lead a 30-minute-discussion. :o

Best,

isabella

GerhardFenkart 
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(6/4/07 20:44)
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Here's the thing:

There's nothing more boring for an audience (including the lector ;) ) than a discussion where all the students have prepared statements/answers, etc. For that reason, there won't be a penalty if the discussion questions were prepared well but the discussion doesn't last the full 30 minutes.

HOWEVER: What we WILL be looking at is the quality of your discussion questions. A classic, for example, is for a student to finish their presentation and, as a discussion question, start off with the grandiose "So what do you think?" Unless you've just given a presentation encouraging the Austrian Government to triple the student fees, that's not a good idea. This sort of question only results in a discussion if the audience has a strong opinion about/emotional connection to the topic.

Instead, every student should think of about six potential questions that will actually interest the others in talking about them. I'll try to give you an example:

Let's say you're giving a presentation on "The Importance Of E-Commerce For The Textile Industry". This is not really the sort of topic that inspires passionate rhetoric, which is why I chose it.

Let's brainstorm and think of topics that are related to the topic, but that might lend themselves better to discussions. In terms of structure, we'll go from more closely related questions to more-and-more abstract ones. Off the top of my head, I've got:

1) What effects will e-commerce have on the global structure of the textile industry? Where do you see this going in 3, 10, and 20 years?

2) What advantages and disadvantages have arisen for the textile industry in developed countries? Have they benefited from the increased globalization? Have the lost customers to cheaper competitors? Who are the winners and losers in the textile industry of developed countries?

3) Is there a tendency for globalization to benefit industries in regions where the production costs are lowest? Is this true for the textile industry or not?

4) If so, do you think globalization promotes the longterm welfare of developing countries? Why or why not?

5) Assuming that the economic development of developing countries benefits through increased sales, does this mean international consumer groups are silly to complain about low wages/child labor in developing countries?

6) On the basis of the previous questions, how would you evaluate the overall effect of e-commerce on consumers, producers in developed countries, and producers in developing countries? What benefits/deficits related to e-commerce do you see?

From personal experience, I guarantee that these types of questions will get this type of audience group into discussions where you'll have to worry about LIMITING them to 30 minutes rather than getting all the way there. And that was five minutes of brainstorming and a half bottle of diet beer. Just imagine what you'll come up with in ten minutes and a bottle of Jack.


The short answer to your question:
So lange Rede, kurzer Sinn, the grading criteria for the discussion segment is simply this: If somebody has prepared a number of discussion questions that theoretically should inspire classmates to voice opinions, agree/disagree, gain new insights, etc., then it doesn't matter if the discussion is lots shorter than 30 minutes. The presenter will still get full points for it. At the same time, however, if somebody has prepared a bunch of questions that are realistically of no genuine interest to anyone, then they'll lose marks even if the class has choreographed enough answers to go on for 40 minutes.


In your particular case, "consumer rights" should lend itself quite easily to the discussion format. A good idea for something like that is to choose a few examples that fall under the category "grey area" (i.e. where it's not totally clear if increased consumer rights wouldn't put the overall market in a worse position rather than a better one) and ask your classmates for their opinions. Or: give examples for obscure consumer rights (e.g. that end up harming the producers so badly that they stop offering the product entirely) and ask "Is there a limit to consumer rights? If so, where do you draw the line?"

All in all, to get a good discussion going, make sure to include some questions that are provocative enough to inspire real interest (and a wish to voice one's own opinion) in the audience.

GerhardFenkart 
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(6/4/07 20:52)
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Re: Präsentation
One thing I didn't mention concerning the Zeillern framework is that while your meals are all covered on Thursday/Friday (Day Group) or Saturday/Sunday (Evening Group), there's no meal plan for the first evening of your arrival. We generally meet at a restaurant and order from the menu the first night.

Also, please consider that Thursday is a holiday and the shops will not be open in case you need something. There's a bar, a cafe, and a restaurant at the Schlosshotel, but stocking up on fruits/snacks/mineral water for the late evening might not be a bad idea.

Anybody have a Risk or Monopoly board they can bring along? I'll bring along Trivial Pursuit with Ebert/Griffin questions, so there's always that... ;-)

Finally, according to www.zeillern.gv.at/ , there will be a guitar and mandolin concert at the Schlosshotel on Friday night from 7-9 p.m. . So rock n' roll.

roman
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(6/5/07 17:35)
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another question concerning the discussion
hey gerhard;
while reading the discussion topic i found another question which i want you to ask.
during the discussion, are you going to ask questions either, or only in case you suddenly find an interessting one (or do you ask anyway); or are we totally on our own there? because i am afraid that i won`t have 5 or 6 interessting questions which are good to discuss because normally students at our age havent had so much contact to insurance agents, groups etc yet. and i cannot really ask somebody of his/her insurance policy to discuss wether its good or not... you know what i mean?
best, roman

roman
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(6/5/07 17:37)
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risiko
by the way, i actually have one version of risiko.
and i would like to play it and -of course - defeat everybody who wants to conquer my land...
:D

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